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		<title>Comment on Tyrannosaurus Text by Stefan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 01:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the college level, e-books are available for many titles at about 45% of cover price for the bound version, but the subscription only lasts a year, and many students soon fork over the difference for a material text which offers many advantages in use and can be re-sold as well.

On the other hand, so many resources are available on-line that a hardworking teacher with ingenuity and insight could readily compose a custom curriculum/textbook as series of urls that could direct students at first, until they realize that they can surf quite freely on their own as they become familiar with the terms of discourse in their area of interest.  I think this is the direction that reading/browsing is going.  An important feature of an e-reader would be to keep a complete history of references or sites/pages visited, sort of a set of index cards that could be re-shuffled and re-worked in order to help a student organize research and enter the discourse as an independent free thinker.  

I recently read about a professor who requires his students to write papers as Wikipedia entries, since they are thus required to cite sources and are learning how to enter the work-a-day world to boot.  Students can also be encouraged to express their schoolwork as a blog; also happening in some classrooms.

I&#039;m not quite sure how all this might apply to the K-12 set, but I bet it would to some degree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the college level, e-books are available for many titles at about 45% of cover price for the bound version, but the subscription only lasts a year, and many students soon fork over the difference for a material text which offers many advantages in use and can be re-sold as well.</p>
<p>On the other hand, so many resources are available on-line that a hardworking teacher with ingenuity and insight could readily compose a custom curriculum/textbook as series of urls that could direct students at first, until they realize that they can surf quite freely on their own as they become familiar with the terms of discourse in their area of interest.  I think this is the direction that reading/browsing is going.  An important feature of an e-reader would be to keep a complete history of references or sites/pages visited, sort of a set of index cards that could be re-shuffled and re-worked in order to help a student organize research and enter the discourse as an independent free thinker.  </p>
<p>I recently read about a professor who requires his students to write papers as Wikipedia entries, since they are thus required to cite sources and are learning how to enter the work-a-day world to boot.  Students can also be encouraged to express their schoolwork as a blog; also happening in some classrooms.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not quite sure how all this might apply to the K-12 set, but I bet it would to some degree.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tyrannosaurus Text by Natalie D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Natalie D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 01:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a tough call. I think many people still would prefer reading from a book, myself included! Perhaps as this generation of digital learners goes on to college, the transition might slowly occur. It makes me think of the newspapers, which are still making money when all of the content is online. 
I wonder what students would prefer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a tough call. I think many people still would prefer reading from a book, myself included! Perhaps as this generation of digital learners goes on to college, the transition might slowly occur. It makes me think of the newspapers, which are still making money when all of the content is online.<br />
I wonder what students would prefer.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tyrannosaurus Text by Tom McGee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom McGee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 17:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill, 
This is a much needed topic of conversation.  The one hurdle we face in going digital is the fact that anyone can &quot;copy&quot; the material.  Although illegal, the potential is there.  The only way to copy textbooks is to spend countless hours running it through a copy machine.  As you know, this is difficult to do which is one reason that publishing companies &quot;want&quot; us to purchase the textbooks.  

From an educational perspective, going digital can only transcend learning in the classroom.  Imagine texbooks transformed into &quot;hyper&quot; textbooks where the content is fully interactive.  Students can take quizzes while reading along and learning the material.  Students can jump out from one concept to a completely different concept with one click, to help that student make connections and apply those conecpts in different situations.

The point is...we are suffocating our students by forcing them to learn in a way that worked 200 years ago.  Classrooms have changed (or are starting to). Why haven&#039;t, or better yet, why can&#039;t textbooks moved into a different direction?  Maybe one day we will open a &quot;Jurassic Library&quot;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,<br />
This is a much needed topic of conversation.  The one hurdle we face in going digital is the fact that anyone can &#8220;copy&#8221; the material.  Although illegal, the potential is there.  The only way to copy textbooks is to spend countless hours running it through a copy machine.  As you know, this is difficult to do which is one reason that publishing companies &#8220;want&#8221; us to purchase the textbooks.  </p>
<p>From an educational perspective, going digital can only transcend learning in the classroom.  Imagine texbooks transformed into &#8220;hyper&#8221; textbooks where the content is fully interactive.  Students can take quizzes while reading along and learning the material.  Students can jump out from one concept to a completely different concept with one click, to help that student make connections and apply those conecpts in different situations.</p>
<p>The point is&#8230;we are suffocating our students by forcing them to learn in a way that worked 200 years ago.  Classrooms have changed (or are starting to). Why haven&#8217;t, or better yet, why can&#8217;t textbooks moved into a different direction?  Maybe one day we will open a &#8220;Jurassic Library&#8221;!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tyrannosaurus Text by dolton</title>
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		<dc:creator>dolton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here are two more related resources I just came upon (via Twitter):
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Virtual Worlds Best Practices in Education: Learning in 3D Presentation Now Available
via Kapp Notes: http://karlkapp.blogspot.com/2010/03/virtual-worlds-best-practices-in.html
-- presentations in Second Life about learning in virtual worlds.

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Textbooks Are Finished: It’s time to trade them for computers.
Article in District Administration by Cathleen Norris and Elliot Soloway
&quot;To be clear, we’re not referring to digital textbooks, which are simply versions of paper textbooks that publishers typically provide if the paper-based version is purchased. A digital textbook is still a textbook, and as we have already stated, textbooks are no longer needed.&quot;
-- http://bit.ly/aKtiHM
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Also read in April 2010 Wired today:
&quot;Simply moving printed texts to tablets (as with the Kindle) will be of limited value. To succeed, publishers will have to embrace multimedia and community-building.&quot; -Bob Stein, Codirector, Institute for the Future of the Book -- http://www.futureofthebook.org/. And check out their blog if:book.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are two more related resources I just came upon (via Twitter):</p>
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Virtual Worlds Best Practices in Education: Learning in 3D Presentation Now Available<br />
via Kapp Notes: <a href="http://karlkapp.blogspot.com/2010/03/virtual-worlds-best-practices-in.html" rel="nofollow">http://karlkapp.blogspot.com/2010/03/virtual-worlds-best-practices-in.html</a><br />
&#8211; presentations in Second Life about learning in virtual worlds.</p>
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Textbooks Are Finished: It’s time to trade them for computers.<br />
Article in District Administration by Cathleen Norris and Elliot Soloway<br />
&#8220;To be clear, we’re not referring to digital textbooks, which are simply versions of paper textbooks that publishers typically provide if the paper-based version is purchased. A digital textbook is still a textbook, and as we have already stated, textbooks are no longer needed.&#8221;<br />
&#8211; <a href="http://bit.ly/aKtiHM" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/aKtiHM</a>
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<p>Also read in April 2010 Wired today:<br />
&#8220;Simply moving printed texts to tablets (as with the Kindle) will be of limited value. To succeed, publishers will have to embrace multimedia and community-building.&#8221; -Bob Stein, Codirector, Institute for the Future of the Book &#8212; <a href="http://www.futureofthebook.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.futureofthebook.org/</a>. And check out their blog if:book.
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		<title>Comment on Tyrannosaurus Text by dolton</title>
		<link>http://doltonroad.com/blog/2010/03/18/tyrannosaurus-text/comment-page-1/#comment-24</link>
		<dc:creator>dolton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two dangers for educators to guard against -- very nice, Pete! I sometimes wonder why we have to keep re-learning what Marshall McLuhan taught us (sigh). And there is definitely a danger of mashing up disparate digital content into useless mush (nice imagery). Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two dangers for educators to guard against &#8212; very nice, Pete! I sometimes wonder why we have to keep re-learning what Marshall McLuhan taught us (sigh). And there is definitely a danger of mashing up disparate digital content into useless mush (nice imagery). Thanks!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tyrannosaurus Text by dolton</title>
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		<dc:creator>dolton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comment, Jim. The story you share takes the mystique out of the authority of textbooks, doesn&#039;t it? Another good reason to take the curriculum out of the hands of traditional big publishers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment, Jim. The story you share takes the mystique out of the authority of textbooks, doesn&#8217;t it? Another good reason to take the curriculum out of the hands of traditional big publishers.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tyrannosaurus Text by Pete Crooke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete Crooke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 15:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem that I see with textbooks is, well, that there are textbooks.  Textbook content seems to be in two categories: Basic background; and then reference material.  Most teachers can, and often do, have a great deal of fun teaching the background stuff as needed.  There is always room for reference materials and certainly the Web provides that.

To digitize textbook does not seem to make sense to me, because all that textbooks have to offer is, or should be, a small part of any learning environment.

Your post, Bill,  states all of this very well and calls for something bigger than just textbooks.

I agree that digital content has so much more to offer than textbooks.  There are two dangers of which educators must remain aware: First, the trivialization of content into entertainment because the same medium that contains important content (define that any way you want) contains the content of entertainment.  I learned that from Marshall McLuhan.  Second, without the scaffolding appropriate for each student, the wealth of content will be &quot;mashed-up&quot; into mush, sanitizing the content of any real evidence of reasoned concepts.  I learned that from you, Bill.

The good news is that this defines our jobs as educators.  We will never be out of work... unless, of course we insist on trying to hold onto the Tyrannosaurus Text!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem that I see with textbooks is, well, that there are textbooks.  Textbook content seems to be in two categories: Basic background; and then reference material.  Most teachers can, and often do, have a great deal of fun teaching the background stuff as needed.  There is always room for reference materials and certainly the Web provides that.</p>
<p>To digitize textbook does not seem to make sense to me, because all that textbooks have to offer is, or should be, a small part of any learning environment.</p>
<p>Your post, Bill,  states all of this very well and calls for something bigger than just textbooks.</p>
<p>I agree that digital content has so much more to offer than textbooks.  There are two dangers of which educators must remain aware: First, the trivialization of content into entertainment because the same medium that contains important content (define that any way you want) contains the content of entertainment.  I learned that from Marshall McLuhan.  Second, without the scaffolding appropriate for each student, the wealth of content will be &#8220;mashed-up&#8221; into mush, sanitizing the content of any real evidence of reasoned concepts.  I learned that from you, Bill.</p>
<p>The good news is that this defines our jobs as educators.  We will never be out of work&#8230; unless, of course we insist on trying to hold onto the Tyrannosaurus Text!!!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tyrannosaurus Text by Jim Gates</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Gates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 13:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that it MUST move in that direction - for all the reasons you mention. I think that the Texas decision will go down as the tipping point, too. Education MUST stay OUT of the hands of the politicians.

Years ago I met man who had made big news (3 full pages in the Baltimore Sun) when he documented 1100 (eleven HUNDRED) errors in his daughter&#039;s Physics textbook. Some were small, but others included showing wrong graphs and once even showing a picture of Linda Ronstadt with a caption saying it was a graph. Yikes! Eleven hundred errors. He contacted the authors of the book, too, and NOT ONE of them even were aware that their names were listed as being an author. The way the publisher collected and packaged content was bizarre. 

Books on CDROM or online will only help those who own a computer, however. This will certainly be a hurdle to full implementation. But, I agree entirely that the reasons for moving in this direction are all here and now being fueled by the decision in Texas.

Excellent post, Bill, with excellent articles of reference, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that it MUST move in that direction &#8211; for all the reasons you mention. I think that the Texas decision will go down as the tipping point, too. Education MUST stay OUT of the hands of the politicians.</p>
<p>Years ago I met man who had made big news (3 full pages in the Baltimore Sun) when he documented 1100 (eleven HUNDRED) errors in his daughter&#8217;s Physics textbook. Some were small, but others included showing wrong graphs and once even showing a picture of Linda Ronstadt with a caption saying it was a graph. Yikes! Eleven hundred errors. He contacted the authors of the book, too, and NOT ONE of them even were aware that their names were listed as being an author. The way the publisher collected and packaged content was bizarre. </p>
<p>Books on CDROM or online will only help those who own a computer, however. This will certainly be a hurdle to full implementation. But, I agree entirely that the reasons for moving in this direction are all here and now being fueled by the decision in Texas.</p>
<p>Excellent post, Bill, with excellent articles of reference, too.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Let It Snow! by dolton</title>
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		<dc:creator>dolton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 01:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Felt like Blair Witch Snowquel after 4 hours of shoveling. Sammy doesn&#039;t do deep snow. We have to shovel a section for him so he doesn&#039;t &quot;use&quot; the back porch! At least I got some &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/dolton/sets/72157623240171077/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;photos&lt;/a&gt; and this video while it was still pristine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Felt like Blair Witch Snowquel after 4 hours of shoveling. Sammy doesn&#8217;t do deep snow. We have to shovel a section for him so he doesn&#8217;t &#8220;use&#8221; the back porch! At least I got some <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/dolton/sets/72157623240171077/" rel="nofollow">photos</a> and this video while it was still pristine.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Let It Snow! by SARA and THOM</title>
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		<dc:creator>SARA and THOM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 00:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unbelievable...and where is the swimming pool - our is heated only to 75 degrees and the temp here is 64 - a bit chilly but we still don&#039;t need to shovel.
Can&#039;t locate the crow (could it be our fantastic screen?) but can hear the crunch of snow underfoot.  Where are Sammy&#039;s footprints?

Thom cutting in...I saw the crow in the tree. I&#039;ve done harder &quot;Hidden Pictures&quot;. Is this the winter &quot;Blair Witch&quot; sequel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unbelievable&#8230;and where is the swimming pool &#8211; our is heated only to 75 degrees and the temp here is 64 &#8211; a bit chilly but we still don&#8217;t need to shovel.<br />
Can&#8217;t locate the crow (could it be our fantastic screen?) but can hear the crunch of snow underfoot.  Where are Sammy&#8217;s footprints?</p>
<p>Thom cutting in&#8230;I saw the crow in the tree. I&#8217;ve done harder &#8220;Hidden Pictures&#8221;. Is this the winter &#8220;Blair Witch&#8221; sequel.</p>
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